From: owner-the-edge-digest@ (The Edge Digested) To: the-edge-digest@robin-nvh.bvsd.k12.co.us Subject: The Edge Digested V1 #95 Reply-To: the-edge@robin-nvh.bvsd.k12.co.us Sender: owner-the-edge-digest@ Errors-To: owner-the-edge-digest@ Precedence: bulk The Edge Digested Friday, August 14 1998 Volume 01 : Number 095 Today's subjects from The Edge: [The Edge] Over the Edge: 'Martian slang/patois Re: [The Edge] Over the Edge: 'Martian slang/patois [The Edge] 1998 World Championship [The Edge] 1998 Championship Unofficial Commentary [The Edge] Alien Vampires [The Edge] immunity Re: [The Edge] Alien Vampires Re: [The Edge] Alien Vampires Re: [The Edge] Alien Vampires Re: [The Edge] Alien Vampires Re: [The Edge] immunity ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 00:46:51 -0500 From: "Rodney J Anderson" Subject: [The Edge] Over the Edge: 'Martian slang/patois This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01BDC653.DC7FF340 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all. A few nights ago I ran a pick-up game of OvTE which will = hopefully develop into a regular series. One thing I was trying to = emphasize in that session was the exotic, multicultural feel of the = island -- but I think this goal was undermined by the fact that I played = my 'Martians too "American". Obviously, we can assume that 'Martians = who deal with burger regularly will know and use standard American = English, but I'd still like to have some new slang or patois words to = throw into conversations, especially ones derived from Arabic or Berber = languages, which I know nothing about (and find daunting to learn -- = especially if I'm just going to use them to splash some color into an = RPG session). If there's an interest in the subject, I could throw out = a few ideas of my own, based mostly on French. Thanks for reading! - --Rod Anderson "I'm Dr. Frasier Crane. This is my brother Niles Crane, the eminent = psychiatrist." "My brother's too kind. He was already eminent when my eminence was = merely imminent." - ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01BDC653.DC7FF340 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello all. A few nights ago I = ran a=20 pick-up game of OvTE which will hopefully develop into a regular = series. =20 One thing I was trying to emphasize in that session was the exotic,=20 multicultural feel of the island -- but I think this goal was undermined = by the=20 fact that I played my 'Martians too "American". = Obviously, we=20 can assume that 'Martians who deal with burger regularly will know and = use=20 standard American English, but I'd still like to have some new slang or = patois=20 words to throw into conversations, especially ones derived from Arabic = or Berber=20 languages, which I know nothing about (and find daunting to learn -- = especially=20 if I'm just going to use them to splash some color into an RPG = session). =20 If there's an interest in the subject, I could throw out a few ideas of = my own,=20 based mostly on French. Thanks for reading!

--Rod Anderson

"I'm Dr. Frasier Crane. = This is my=20 brother Niles Crane, the eminent psychiatrist."
"My = brother's too=20 kind. He was already eminent when my eminence was merely=20 imminent."

- ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01BDC653.DC7FF340-- [O] You received this message because you are subscribed to the-edge [0] To (un)subscribe, send a message to majordomo@robin.ml.org with body of [O] (un)subscribe the-edge ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 11:40:03 -0700 From: Edmund Metheny Subject: Re: [The Edge] Over the Edge: 'Martian slang/patois Rodney, for my OvTE game I like to use the "Alternative Dictionary" websites to scatter some impolite jargon into conversations. Check out the website at http://www.notam.uio.no/~hcholm/altlang/ EM - -- Edmund M. Metheny Arcata, CA ICQ#: 3716119 "For us of the minority, the opportunity to see geese is more important than television, and the chance to find a pasque-flower is a right as inalienable as free speech." - -Aldo Leopold [O] You received this message because you are subscribed to the-edge [0] To (un)subscribe, send a message to majordomo@robin.ml.org with body of [O] (un)subscribe the-edge ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 17:53:31 EDT From: AGJeff@AOL.COM Subject: [The Edge] 1998 World Championship 1998 OnTE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP RESULTS Points were awarded based placing in round-robin games of three players each. Winners received three points, runners-up received one point. Ranking ties were broken based on Influence accumulated in round-robin games. Influence was capped at 16 points to eliminate the need for grandstanding. The top three point scorers after four games played a final round which determined final ranking for those three players. WINNERS 1 Gary Birch (10/49) Winner 2 William Weyenberg (10/57) Runner-Up 3 Ski Swope (8/64) Second Runner-Up OTHER COMPETITORS 4 Jason Woodburn 8/46 5 Malcolm Rose 7/62 6 Ken Sipe 7/56 7 Eric Jome 6/45 8 Jim Beecher 6/43 9 Craig Weyenberg 5/44 10 Nikky Boyington 5/41 11 Paul Lareau 4/43 12 Thomas Gregory 3/52 13 Nathan Mitchell 3/50 14 Dana Devries 3/16 15 Paul Skrabut 2/43 16 Forrest Nielsen DNF 16 Monica Gaudio DNF 16 Hal Weatherford DNF [O] You received this message because you are subscribed to the-edge [0] To (un)subscribe, send a message to majordomo@robin.ml.org with body of [O] (un)subscribe the-edge ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 17:53:28 EDT From: AGJeff@AOL.COM Subject: [The Edge] 1998 Championship Unofficial Commentary So, the results have been sent separately, but I'd like to just say a few words about the competition. First, a fun time was had by all (as far as I can tell, anyway). There were more "power" decks than were seen last year--Pharaohs and such--but most were still stunned by the wide variety of decks that were entered. The format of the tournament was a four round round-robin rounds. Two were of constructed deck play, and two were of sealed deck play, so that both methods counted toward victory. The sealed deck cards were one standard starter and two standard boosters. Contestants were allowed to reject their first card set and opt for a second, the the second must then be accepted, even if worse than the first. The final round was played with constructed decks. Rather than provide all the commentary on the tournament on my own, I hereby enlist those contestants that are on this list to talk about the decks they played, the decks they faced, the people who participated, or whatever else. Thanks to everyone who participated! Jeff Tidball Lame Duck Conspirator General and Tournament Official Atlas Games/Trident Inc. [O] You received this message because you are subscribed to the-edge [0] To (un)subscribe, send a message to majordomo@robin.ml.org with body of [O] (un)subscribe the-edge ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 14:51:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Yanni Cooper Subject: [The Edge] Alien Vampires - ---"Paul J. Lareau" wrote: [snip] > Besides, John & Tanja are lonely, and I can just see the look on the face of > the first thirsy Toreador who decides to sample Weegzon! Ohhhwhee.. you just opened a whole new can of worms here. Ideas: 1)Vampire is given Seklut poisening. What happens? 2)Vampire recieves Kergillian implant. Does the implant become a vampire too? If it's host dies will it eventually try to feed on other kergillians? Will the vampire host/parasite require the blood from someone who has already been implanted with a kerg? 3)Other aliens, how will vampirism affect them? Will they need blood from humans or others of their own species? 4)Tulpas, would they have to prey on other tulpas? Could they even be vampires? Would the person they're doppelling have to be a vampire? Would that person's becomeing a vampire make them one automatically? 5)The veil. Surely it would be much much less sturdy on al amarja, if it even existed. When poeple are used to strange occurances every day, will they be much affected by a vampire or other strange occurances. Even if the veil is broken on AA, who will care?(see #6) 6)Dr. Nusbaum & Monique. Will they try to become vampires? Is monique already one? 7)What clans are already here? I would posit that malkavians would take to AA the easiest of all the clans, hey, they're to crazy to know better. If Malkav is still alive, what better place to run the Malk Madness Network from? Maybe Malkav has been channeling the group mind of of Al Amarja all along. Ok, better stop before I dig my hole to deep. ===============Yanni Cooper=\ Chaos reigns within. | Reflect, repent, and reboot. The code was willing, | Order shall return. It considered your request, | But the chips were weak. \=aslum@rocketmail.com======== _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com [O] You received this message because you are subscribed to the-edge [0] To (un)subscribe, send a message to majordomo@robin.ml.org with body of [O] (un)subscribe the-edge ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 15:21:20 -0700 From: Alex Rodriguez Subject: [The Edge] immunity we were reading up on immunity last night and if we understand it correctly, a character that is Immune:Astral could use a Dark Aura Ring and also use two Negative Energies without any adverse effect. Does anyone else play differently? alex - -- I'm not entirely evil, just a wholly owned subsidiary thereof. [O] You received this message because you are subscribed to the-edge [0] To (un)subscribe, send a message to majordomo@robin.ml.org with body of [O] (un)subscribe the-edge ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 16:31:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Philip Flores Subject: Re: [The Edge] Alien Vampires And don't forget Glugs. I would imagine that their blood would be powerful, but they're immune to the mind tricks that Kindred use to make feeding easier (Dominate, Obfuscate, etc.), making it difficult for a vampire to feed of a Glug without endangering the Masquerade. And what about Aphids? - -Philip Flores philipf@acbc.com [O] You received this message because you are subscribed to the-edge [0] To (un)subscribe, send a message to majordomo@robin.ml.org with body of [O] (un)subscribe the-edge ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 23:33:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Mark Kinney Subject: Re: [The Edge] Alien Vampires I'll try to detail my OTE/WoD ideas more in the next week or so, as I have time. Meanwhile... On Thu, 13 Aug 1998, Yanni Cooper wrote: > 1)Vampire is given Seklut poisening. What happens? Probably nothing, unless consumed with blood (or consuming the blood of someone who just got it -- precedent with alcohol and drug effects. > 2)Vampire recieves Kergillian implant. Does the implant > become a vampire too? If it's host dies will it eventually > try to feed on other kergillians? Will the vampire > host/parasite require the blood from someone who has already > been implanted with a kerg? One the implant is made, it works from the host's blood supply, so that wouldn't be much different, feeding wise. Implanting a vampire... well, keep in mine you'd basically be attempting to implant a corpse. Now, werewolves, mages, changelings... that's different. > 3)Other aliens, how will vampirism affect them? Will they need > blood from humans or others of their own species? Human Kindred can live off of animal blood, it just isn't as efficient. I would imagine thus that as long as the blood had the same operational basis (hemoglobin or whatever) they could feed, however effective it would be. > 4)Tulpas, would they have to prey on other tulpas? Could > they even be vampires? Would the person they're doppelling > have to be a vampire? Would that person's becomeing a vampire > make them one automatically? Tulpas get interesting... and they don't necessarily "doppel" anyone, just the expectations of whoever encounters it. If that makes it a vampire, it's a vampire in every operational way until it somehow sheds that trait. Now, consider, if you will, a Malkavian who expects he's going to round any given corner and run into Caine, come to bring Gehenna to the world, and he rounds a corner and encounters a tulpa... > 5)The veil. Surely it would be much much less sturdy on al > amarja, if it even existed. When poeple are used to strange > occurances every day, will they be much affected by a vampire > or other strange occurances. Even if the veil is broken on > AA, who will care?(see #6) Veil is more a werewolf thing, and would work on burger, I'd think, but otherwise they'd just be out there. I imagine the Camarilla would want the Masquerade to be maintained as much as possible, and even the Sabbat would remain low-key so as to avoid the dangers of the Edge that even they may not expect. Mages get interesting, as a) there is apparently a chapter of the Order of Hermes based on the island (check out Wizards, I think) and b) Al Amarja is probably one of the only places they could get away with certain amounts of vulgar magick on a regular basis (they'd still have to watch for burger). I imagine changelings would love the place as well, until the TD started making them into an army of dauntain... As to who would care if the supernaturals expose themselves? The CPC and the Neutralizers for two, followed closely by the Hermetic cell, the Philosopher's Stone, Gladstein cell, Compton... > 6)Dr. Nusbaum & Monique. Will they try to become vampires? > Is monique already one? Nusbaum I doubt. Monique is a distinct possibility. Lasombra, probably. Do you realize that Kindred probably wouldn't be affected by SACQ? > 7)What clans are already here? I would posit that > malkavians would take to AA the easiest of all the clans, > hey, they're to crazy to know better. If Malkav is still > alive, what better place to run the Malk Madness Network > from? Maybe Malkav has been channeling the group mind of > of Al Amarja all along. I think I listed a lot of possibilities before... I may have zapped them to shorten the message. I'll get into them later, but you can expect big presences by (yes) the Malks, Lasombra, Ventrue, Toreador, Setite, and whatever Ravnos can get through customs. :-) Someone else posted about Glugs and Aphids. Aphids would turn out normal, unless the kindred hit the lymph system... and Apep's Milk would be useless to them anyway. Drinking from a Glug would probably addict the vampire to at least to drinking only from Glugs, if not only that *specific* Glug. Gets difficult fast, eh? What if the Pharoahs are actually the Antediluvians, and the Sages were the Second Generation? Thus the Pharoahs can Fortitude themselves around in daylight and use extreme Dominate on people. alberich@iglou.com | Mark Kinney | http://www.iglou.com/nations "The desire for safety stands against every great and noble enterprise." -- Tacitus [O] You received this message because you are subscribed to the-edge [0] To (un)subscribe, send a message to majordomo@robin.ml.org with body of [O] (un)subscribe the-edge ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 21:09:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Yanni Cooper Subject: Re: [The Edge] Alien Vampires - ---Mark Kinney wrote: > I'll try to detail my OTE/WoD ideas more in the next week or so, as I have > time. Meanwhile... > > On Thu, 13 Aug 1998, Yanni Cooper wrote: > > 1)Vampire is given Seklut poisening. What happens? > Probably nothing, unless consumed with blood (or consuming the blood of > someone who just got it -- precedent with alcohol and drug effects. Ok, so your vamp tries to feed off of Aven Bloodlord. What happens to the Vamp? > > 2)Vampire recieves Kergillian implant. Does the implant > > become a vampire too? If it's host dies will it eventually > > try to feed on other kergillians? Will the vampire > > host/parasite require the blood from someone who has already > > been implanted with a kerg? > One the implant is made, it works from the host's blood supply, so that > wouldn't be much different, feeding wise. Implanting a vampire... well, > keep in mine you'd basically be attempting to implant a corpse. Now, > werewolves, mages, changelings... that's different. Yes, but the corpse is still moving. I assume the implants take over the voluntary systems of the being they are "using". Obviously the vamps brain is working in some form, therefore shouldn't the kerg gain control of it? Does this mean that Kofi is a suborned (SP?) Brujah? Would make sense. > > 3)Other aliens, how will vampirism affect them? Will they need > > blood from humans or others of their own species? > Human Kindred can live off of animal blood, it just isn't as efficient. I > would imagine thus that as long as the blood had the same operational > basis (hemoglobin or whatever) they could feed, however effective it would > be. So beings with a differant physiology might be imune to vampirism? [snip] Good job on explaining the Tulpas. > > 5)The veil. Surely it would be much much less sturdy on al > > amarja, if it even existed. When poeple are used to strange > > occurances every day, will they be much affected by a vampire > > or other strange occurances. Even if the veil is broken on > > AA, who will care?(see #6) > Veil is more a werewolf thing, and would work on burger, I'd think, but > otherwise they'd just be out there. I imagine the Camarilla would want > the Masquerade to be maintained as much as possible, and even the Sabbat > would remain low-key so as to avoid the dangers of the Edge that even they > may not expect. Mages get interesting, as a) there is apparently a > chapter of the Order of Hermes based on the island (check out Wizards, I > think) and b) Al Amarja is probably one of the only places they could get > away with certain amounts of vulgar magick on a regular basis (they'd > still have to watch for burger). I imagine changelings would love the > place as well, until the TD started making them into an army of > dauntain... Sorry I meant Masquerade. It's been a while. My take is that vampires would be the least of most peoples worries, so maintaining the masquarade would be prety easy. On the other hand, there are plenty of people who would prefer to take advantage of the vampires more then expose them... could be dangerous for the leechs. > As to who would care if the supernaturals expose themselves? The CPC and > the Neutralizers for two, followed closely by the Hermetic cell, the > Philosopher's Stone, Gladstein cell, Compton... But it wouldn't neccisarily(sp!) be to the vamps disadvantage to let themselves be known to these groups. I mean really wouldn't you be scared if compton became a vamp? > > 6)Dr. Nusbaum & Monique. Will they try to become vampires? > > Is monique already one? > Nusbaum I doubt. Monique is a distinct possibility. Lasombra, probably. > Do you realize that Kindred probably wouldn't be affected by SACQ? Why not? It's designed to work on human biochemistry, and while Vamps are undead they usually inhabit human bodies... > > 7)What clans are already here? I would posit that > > malkavians would take to AA the easiest of all the clans, > > hey, they're to crazy to know better. If Malkav is still > > alive, what better place to run the Malk Madness Network > > from? Maybe Malkav has been channeling the group mind of > > of Al Amarja all along. > I think I listed a lot of possibilities before... I may have zapped them > to shorten the message. I'll get into them later, but you can expect big > presences by (yes) the Malks, Lasombra, Ventrue, Toreador, Setite, and > whatever Ravnos can get through customs. :-) Right, actually, I'd bet there'd be more Ravnos then any other clan. [snip: No comment on glug/aphids. You got it covered already.] > What if the Pharoahs are actually the Antediluvians, and the Sages were > the Second Generation? Thus the Pharoahs can Fortitude themselves around > in daylight and use extreme Dominate on people. It prolly wouldn't change much. Just my thoughts. Ignore them at will. I'm very drunk right now. ===============Yanni Cooper=\ Chaos reigns within. | Reflect, repent, and reboot. The code was willing, | Order shall return. It considered your request, | But the chips were weak. \=aslum@rocketmail.com======== _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com [O] You received this message because you are subscribed to the-edge [0] To (un)subscribe, send a message to majordomo@robin.ml.org with body of [O] (un)subscribe the-edge ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 00:54:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Mark Kinney Subject: Re: [The Edge] Alien Vampires On Thu, 13 Aug 1998, Yanni Cooper wrote: > Ok, so your vamp tries to feed off of Aven Bloodlord. What happens to > the Vamp? Then I imagine it would work as given. > Yes, but the corpse is still moving. I assume the implants take over the > voluntary systems of the being they are "using". Obviously the vamps > brain > is working in some form, therefore shouldn't the kerg gain control of > it? > Does this mean that Kofi is a suborned (SP?) Brujah? Would make sense. Hmm... there's still the question of gaining access to the Kindred -- most of them won't need the School thanks to Auspex. Otherwise... maybe. The question is what would happen as the Kegillian takes over... at some point, the original host's mind may not exist anymore, and *then* what? > So beings with a differant physiology might be imune to vampirism? Well, immune to vampirism by Kindred anyway. Doubtless they'd have their own style... > But it wouldn't neccisarily(sp!) be to the vamps disadvantage to let > themselves > be known to these groups. I mean really wouldn't you be scared if > compton became > a vamp? Perhaps, although he may be more useful to the Powers That Be alive. The Neutralizers may let the more benevolent vampires alone, but having lots wandering around, particularly in high places, will worry them. You also want to avoid having all the big names be Kindred (this is one of the few things I cringe at about the WoD). > > Do you realize that Kindred probably wouldn't be affected by SACQ? > Why not? It's designed to work on human biochemistry, and while Vamps > are undead they usually inhabit human bodies... Inhabit human bodies, yes... but they're already dead. Of course, I don't remember offhand if SACQ was supposed to be a neurotoxin or not -- it may work then, but if it depends on blood circulation at all, forget it. Oh... if they drink from an immune person, but while SACQ is active... :-) > Right, actually, I'd bet there'd be more Ravnos then any other clan. I'd bet more on the Setites, actually. They'd infest Skylla, at least. The Ravnos, being the Ravnos, would probably pass through a lot. In any event, *none* of the clans would be as strong here as they are in other places, due to the nature of the island. I forgot the Giovanni, anyway. They'd like Al Amarja. alberich@iglou.com | Mark Kinney | http://www.iglou.com/nations "The desire for safety stands against every great and noble enterprise." -- Tacitus [O] You received this message because you are subscribed to the-edge [0] To (un)subscribe, send a message to majordomo@robin.ml.org with body of [O] (un)subscribe the-edge ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 11:05:29 -0500 (CDT) From: Eric Jome Subject: Re: [The Edge] immunity On Thu, 13 Aug 1998, Alex Rodriguez wrote: > we were reading up on immunity last night and if we understand it > correctly, a character that is Immune:Astral could use a Dark Aura Ring > and also use two Negative Energies without any adverse effect. well, you got it right! that's exactly how immunity works... stick those Negative Energies on Sir Arthur for a solid defense. and because the Dark Aura Ring doesnt affect the person who wears it, it will work with someone who is immune:Astral... but not against someone who is immune. Compton laughs at your Moody Ring. :) immunity is an underrated ability. try Amok and a Crystal Trap sometime. eric [O] You received this message because you are subscribed to the-edge [0] To (un)subscribe, send a message to majordomo@robin.ml.org with body of [O] (un)subscribe the-edge ------------------------------ End of The Edge Digested V1 #95 ******************************* [O] You received this message because you are subscribed to the-edge-digest [0] To (un)subscribe, send a message to majordomo@robin.ml.org with body of [O] (un)subscribe the-edge-digest To get off digest, subscribe the-edge [O] To post a message, send it to the-edge@robin.ml.org