From: owner-the-edge-digest@ (The Edge Digested) To: the-edge-digest@robin-nvh.bvsd.k12.co.us Subject: The Edge Digested V1 #94 Reply-To: the-edge@robin-nvh.bvsd.k12.co.us Sender: owner-the-edge-digest@ Errors-To: owner-the-edge-digest@ Precedence: bulk The Edge Digested Wednesday, August 12 1998 Volume 01 : Number 094 Today's subjects from The Edge: [The Edge] Marshal Forces Re: [The Edge] Re: Vampire plots? [The Edge] Angels and Pyramids RE: [The Edge] Angels and Pyramids Re: [The Edge] Angels and Pyramids [The Edge] OnTE: Seeking Player for Email Game Re: [The Edge] OnTE: Seeking Player for Email Game Re: [The Edge] OnTE: Seeking Player for Email Game Re: [The Edge] OnTE: Seeking Player for Email Game Re: [The Edge] OnTE: Seeking Player for Email Game Re: [The Edge] OnTE: Seeking Player for Email Game Re: [The Edge] OnTE: Seeking Player for Email Game Re: [The Edge] OnTE: Seeking Player for Email Game Re: [The Edge] Is the list dead? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 20:51:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Spike Y Jones Subject: [The Edge] Marshal Forces > also note, the Marshalled Forces are not human... they have only the > trait the resource had. Which means now all you'd have to do to defeat a Pharaoh is have an awful lot of Resources on the table (aside from Broken Wings, that is). Makes Pharaohs a lot less powerful, now doesn't it? [O] [O] [O] Spike Y Jones [O]Spike[O] Freelance writer, editor, proofreader, and ex-bingo-caller [O] [O] [O] spikeyj@access.digex.net http://www.io.com/~spikeyj/ [O] You received this message because you are subscribed to the-edge [0] To (un)subscribe, send a message to majordomo@robin.ml.org with body of [O] (un)subscribe the-edge ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 21:52:32 -0400 From: Alexander Williams Subject: Re: [The Edge] Re: Vampire plots? On Mon, Aug 10, 1998 at 06:59:37PM -0500, Paul J. Lareau wrote: > website. By the way, if you have a copy of Edgeworks #4, Alexander Williams > had an article on this subject. Er, I did? I guess I did ... I wish I had the original text of it, though, if its not the one I recently posted. Should anyone have it OCR'able, feel free to send it to me or, in extremis, a copy of Edgeworks #4. :) - -- Alexander Williams (thantos@mindspring.com) Sometimes you bleed just to know you're alive. [O] You received this message because you are subscribed to the-edge [0] To (un)subscribe, send a message to majordomo@robin.ml.org with body of [O] (un)subscribe the-edge ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 23:53:30 -0600 From: "Brett Slocum" Subject: [The Edge] Angels and Pyramids Someone mentioned VtM and Al Amarja. Then someone mentioned In Nomine. Any thoughts on introducing Celestials and Diabolicals to Al Amarja? I'd think they'd fit right in, but would be in for some competition from the fringe powers there. Also, mention of OverTE and Pyramid came up. In Pyramid issue 26, John Nephew wrote what looks like the first of a series called The CPC Files. CPC = Center for Paranormal Control. Introduces an OTE campaign for players who know too much. BTW, Pyramid has gone online now. After issue #30, no more paper copy. It costs $15 a year and gives you new articles every week, access to the Pyramid archives of all previous articles (though they haven't all been loaded yet), access to SJGames playtesting, message boards, chats, news, etc. There are columns from Kenneth Hite and Steve Fritz. Pyramid isn't an SJGames house organ. They cover many games, including: OTE, Castle Falkenstein, Mage:TA, Vampire:TM, Deadlands, Pendragon, Earthdawn, Shadowrun, Whispering Vault, Feng Shui, Paranoia, CoC, etc., as well as GURPS, In Nomine, Toon, INWO, and the rest of the SJGames catalog. I find it a great value. My most used parts are the message boards and the playtests, and the new articles of course. You can try out some stuff at this URL: http://www.sjgames.com/pyramid/ Oh, I just found the CPC Files article in their list of sample articles, so you can read it free: http://www.sjgames.com/pyramid/samples/ - --- Brett Slocum -- slocum@nospam.io.com | Geek Code: B--- US+ TF+++ GM++ GURPS: http://www.io.com/~slocum/gurps.html | **TM F+++++ MA++ FP PA+ WP+++ Tekumel: http://www.io.com/~slocum/tekumel.html | AB++++ PI+ I++ UF+++ D+++ MiB 0666 - Minneapolis Cell Leader | TV++++ V- A DM+ SB JW++ M TP "In your presence even my shadow acquires the sensation of touch." -- The Surrealist Compliment Generator [O] You received this message because you are subscribed to the-edge [0] To (un)subscribe, send a message to majordomo@robin.ml.org with body of [O] (un)subscribe the-edge ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 09:15:36 +0100 From: "Cloak" Subject: RE: [The Edge] Angels and Pyramids > Someone mentioned VtM and Al Amarja. Then someone mentioned In > Nomine. Any > thoughts on introducing Celestials and Diabolicals to Al Amarja? > I'd think > they'd fit right in, but would be in for some competition from the fringe > powers there. I considered introducing my In Nomine party to Al Amarja, but I eventually decided the epic themes of my In Nomine campaign would overshadow many of the things I like about Al Amarja. (Angels and Demons tend to be very focused on The War and would see much of Al Amarja's "petty squabbles" as beneath them). Introducing Celestials to an Over The Edge campaign is a much more workable idea, and could be extremely fun. Sorcery in In Nomine consists of summoning a Demon, making a bargain and hoping you got the better part of the deal. This has much potential. Also I wonder how the Earthlings or Neutralisers would react to Angels, who are basically good, but have very different priorities to humans, and can seem cruel and callous. I can see both Angels and Demons being classed as supernatural threats to humanity. When Archangel Gabriel blows her horn seven times to begin Armageddon and the final War, everyone loses (except perhaps Mr. LeThuy). This could make for an interesting scenario with many hasty (temporary) alliances being thrown up to save humanity, or a vast increase in backstabbing and conflict as everyone panics. [O] You received this message because you are subscribed to the-edge [0] To (un)subscribe, send a message to majordomo@robin.ml.org with body of [O] (un)subscribe the-edge ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 10:38:16 -0500 From: Ernest Mueller Subject: Re: [The Edge] Angels and Pyramids Cloak wrote: > > > Someone mentioned VtM and Al Amarja. Then someone mentioned In > > Nomine. Any > > thoughts on introducing Celestials and Diabolicals to Al Amarja? > > I'd think > > they'd fit right in, but would be in for some competition from the fringe > > powers there. > > I considered introducing my In Nomine party to Al Amarja, but I eventually > decided the epic themes of my In Nomine campaign would overshadow many of > the things I like about Al Amarja. (Angels and Demons tend to be very > focused on The War and would see much of Al Amarja's "petty squabbles" as > beneath them). Hm, maybe they should read Pierced Heart... I've considered combining In Nomine with Over the Edge in the following simple but interesting way: Al Amarja, for some reason, is the one place in the universe where celestials don't gain Dissonance or other effects from their actions. Many rumors surround this oddity - that it is a place "outside of God's sight," or that it is a place forsaken by God. in any case, it is a temptation for Celestials who would like to go do something out of view of their masters and not gain Dissonance. Similarly, demons can operate without restrictions in Al Amarja. The place is avoided by many because of the suspicion going there generates in your boss, and because it can be a dangerous place even for celestials. Simple, yet has so many options... Ernest - -- Ernest C. Mueller ernestm@towery.com Vice President for Technical Development Phone: (901) 251-7000 Towery Publishing http://www.towery.com [O] You received this message because you are subscribed to the-edge [0] To (un)subscribe, send a message to majordomo@robin.ml.org with body of [O] (un)subscribe the-edge ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 11:03:51 -0500 (CDT) From: Eric Jome Subject: [The Edge] OnTE: Seeking Player for Email Game i have 1 opening for a constructed deck play-by-email game of On The Edge. If you are interested, please send me a note and we can get the ball rolling. Thanks for your interest. eric [O] You received this message because you are subscribed to the-edge [0] To (un)subscribe, send a message to majordomo@robin.ml.org with body of [O] (un)subscribe the-edge ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 12:36:12 -0500 From: "James McClure" Subject: Re: [The Edge] OnTE: Seeking Player for Email Game Peace Eric, >>> Eric Jome 11-Aug-98 11:03:51 >>> i have 1 opening for a constructed deck play-by-email game of On The Edge. If you are interested, please send me a note and we can get the ball rolling. Thanks for your interest. <<< I'm interested in playing, though I'm just a burger. What procedures will you be following to pbem? James [O] You received this message because you are subscribed to the-edge [0] To (un)subscribe, send a message to majordomo@robin.ml.org with body of [O] (un)subscribe the-edge ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 12:42:09 -0500 (CDT) From: Eric Jome Subject: Re: [The Edge] OnTE: Seeking Player for Email Game On Tue, 11 Aug 1998, James McClure wrote: > I'm interested in playing, though I'm just a burger. > What procedures will you be following to pbem? hi, James... it doesnt really matter how much experience you have; you just need a deck, time to do email, and some patience. if you have questions about the game, just ask myself or Clay... we are playing 3 player. this then is how to play OnTE by email; when it is your turn, you will send mail to the other 2 people playing (that is to ejome@execpc.com and eris@bga.com) with a subject in the following form; Eric's Turn, Eric 0, James 1, Clay 10 this subject lists whose turn it is, and what each players score is. it is important to not change the subject even while we are discussing the turn (if necessary) and to not add any pull you make during the turn to the subject until the next players turn starts. the body of the message should contain a short description of what you would _like_ to do that turn. if a player has no actions they would like to play during the turn as written, simply send a mail to the group saying "ok, next turn". this is, in my experience, the most common way for a turn to go. if, in the listing of a turn, you find something you want to interfere with, such as an attack, you should send a message to all players with noting what action and how you are affecting it. This is generally called an interference or interrupt and we must use a series of emails to resolve it. dont worry, usually these things are not long and you can often help them a bit by giving "if" clauses in you original turn. a classic example of a turn and interrupt would look like this. say, Clay has Akorra Encombi and Akio Morimoto in play in one file Akorra cranked, Akio not, James has Mantra in play uncranked, and i have no cards in play. given the subject above, i would give the following turn; play Friends in Golden Barrio crank to call Giovanni Mancini and Bitter & Herb one rank up crank GM to call Lino Briazzi in the front rank of same file crank B&H to call Peer Solgerkvist left of Lino attack Akio Morimoto with Lino done James, please use Mantra on Akio when i attack. this may go exactly as written... James should send a note to all answering my request for Mantra to lower Akio's DP. if the answer is yes, Clay may have an action. if it is no, then i may have an action. we all exchange to work out the details, but it doesnt take more than a a few posts usually; how many times do you see more than 2 cards played per combat? if you want to formalize this entire process a bit more, we can (there is a formal way to do pbem but it is slow and imho not needed). certain cards can cause lengthier turns, such as Rampage or Harmattan, but it is important to note that in general things are pretty smooth. it is generally a pretty good idea to show how you are paying for things if it gets complicated... please be tolerant if people ask how things are being done during a turn. so, any questions? if not, shuffle up your deck and draw ten cards. Clay, why dont you go first and i will go second (unless someone has a burning desire for a particluar turn order)? it will be helpful if you can lay out the other peoples conspiracies on a table in your home or note them out on paper as we go. eric [O] You received this message because you are subscribed to the-edge [0] To (un)subscribe, send a message to majordomo@robin.ml.org with body of [O] (un)subscribe the-edge ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 13:51:48 -0500 From: "James McClure" Subject: Re: [The Edge] OnTE: Seeking Player for Email Game HEY, YOU! What is your problem?!? Don't you check your "To:" before you = hit send? >>> "James McClure" 11-Aug-98 = 12:36:12 >>> Peace Eric, >>> Eric Jome 11-Aug-98 11:03:51 >>> i have 1 opening for a constructed deck play-by-email game of On The Edge. If you are interested, please send me a note and we can get the ball rolling. Thanks for your interest. <<< I'm interested in playing, though I'm just a burger. What procedures will you be following to pbem? <<< What a putz! James [O] You received this message because you are subscribed to the-edge [0] To (un)subscribe, send a message to majordomo@robin.ml.org with body of [O] (un)subscribe the-edge ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 14:06:16 -0400 (EDT) From: David Fisher Subject: Re: [The Edge] OnTE: Seeking Player for Email Game You wrote: HEY, YOU! What is your problem?!? Don't you check your "To:" before you hit send? I think the preferred protocol when talking to yourself is to say, "HEY, ME!" instead of "HEY, YOU!" I must confess, though, I'm glad you sent this to the list. I was kind of curious as well as to how a pbem ccg would work. It seems like this system involves quite a bit of trust. Maybe an applet is called for. Not a applet to play OnTE (heaven forbid!), just one that would deal cards, keep the players honest. >>> "James McClure" 11-Aug-98 12:36:12 >>> Peace Eric, >>> Eric Jome 11-Aug-98 11:03:51 >>> i have 1 opening for a constructed deck play-by-email game of On The Edge. If you are interested, please send me a note and we can get the ball rolling. Thanks for your interest. <<< I'm interested in playing, though I'm just a burger. What procedures will you be following to pbem? <<< What a putz! James - -- Dave [O] You received this message because you are subscribed to the-edge [0] To (un)subscribe, send a message to majordomo@robin.ml.org with body of [O] (un)subscribe the-edge [O] You received this message because you are subscribed to the-edge [0] To (un)subscribe, send a message to majordomo@robin.ml.org with body of [O] (un)subscribe the-edge ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 13:07:50 -0500 (CDT) From: Eric Jome Subject: Re: [The Edge] OnTE: Seeking Player for Email Game On Tue, 11 Aug 1998, Eric Jome wrote: > this then is how to play OnTE by email; aw, crap! :/ i hate when i send private mail to the list. well, perhaps someone can find some use in it anyway. eric [O] You received this message because you are subscribed to the-edge [0] To (un)subscribe, send a message to majordomo@robin.ml.org with body of [O] (un)subscribe the-edge ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 13:53:34 -0500 (CDT) From: Clay Colwell Subject: Re: [The Edge] OnTE: Seeking Player for Email Game On Tue, 11 Aug 1998, David Fisher wrote: > You wrote: > HEY, YOU! What is your problem?!? Don't you check your "To:" > before you hit send? > > I think the preferred protocol when talking to yourself is to say, > "HEY, ME!" instead of "HEY, YOU!" I must confess, though, I'm glad > you sent this to the list. I was kind of curious as well as to how a > pbem ccg would work. It seems like this system involves quite a bit > of trust. Maybe an applet is called for. Not a applet to play OnTE > (heaven forbid!), just one that would deal cards, keep the players > honest. In the few PBEM games I've been involved with, I make it Cardinal Rule #1 to Trust My Opponents Not To Cheat. I figger that, if folks will go through the trouble and have the patience to endure the required-slower pace of a game, and understand the lack of checks and balances, they'll be cool enough to understand and abide by honest play. After all, it's the play first, and the winning (or losing :-) second. ****** Clay Colwell (aka StealthSmurf) ********** eris@bga.com ****** * "In the future, we will recognize software crashes as technologically * * mandated ergonomic rest breaks - and we will pay extra for them." * * -- Crazy Uncle Joe Hannibal * [O] You received this message because you are subscribed to the-edge [0] To (un)subscribe, send a message to majordomo@robin.ml.org with body of [O] (un)subscribe the-edge ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 17:09:20 -0400 From: "John M. Baker" Subject: Re: [The Edge] OnTE: Seeking Player for Email Game > >In the few PBEM games I've been involved with, I make it Cardinal >Rule #1 to Trust My Opponents Not To Cheat. I figger that, if >folks will go through the trouble and have the patience to endure >the required-slower pace of a game, and understand the lack of >checks and balances, they'll be cool enough to understand and >abide by honest play. After all, it's the play first, and the >winning (or losing :-) second. > Okay, I'll let the secret out... I've spoken to George Fink, creater of Deckserver, which allows for the playing of CCG in a PBEM format and keep things fair. Check out the website: http://www.deckserver.net for details. Let's try to get On The Edge into this format! John Baker [O] You received this message because you are subscribed to the-edge [0] To (un)subscribe, send a message to majordomo@robin.ml.org with body of [O] (un)subscribe the-edge ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 15:44:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Yanni Cooper Subject: Re: [The Edge] Is the list dead? How about this Ideas Made Real : Condition 6* Sub-Random Place target resource in your conspiracy. It is considered a Unique Character with Power equal to the number of Resources with the same name. It may not be cranked for pull. - ---Eric Jome wrote: > > On Thu, 6 Aug 1998, Lee Saborio wrote: > > > All right, one last time, anybody in the Ann Arbor area playing On The Edge? > > cant help you here... i'm in Milwaukee myself. > > > Also: > > Condition > > Play on one of your resources. Move resource into your conspiracy. The > > resource gains power equal to the number of resources in play with the same > > name. > > (Pull also?) > > hmmm. this seems pretty confusing to me. not sure what you meant this > to do... what can a resource do with power? it cant attack or anything. ===============Yanni Cooper=\ Chaos reigns within. | Reflect, repent, and reboot. The code was willing, | Order shall return. It considered your request, | But the chips were weak. \=aslum@rocketmail.com======== _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? 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