From: owner-the-edge-digest@ (The Edge Digested) To: the-edge-digest@robin-nvh.bvsd.k12.co.us Subject: The Edge Digested V1 #21 Reply-To: the-edge@robin-nvh.bvsd.k12.co.us Sender: owner-the-edge-digest@ Errors-To: owner-the-edge-digest@ Precedence: bulk The Edge Digested Monday, January 12 1998 Volume 01 : Number 021 Today's subjects from The Edge: [The Edge] Nietzsche & Throckmorton Re: [The Edge] Everyone's FAVORITE family, the D'Aubainne's! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 03:57:49 EST From: AtlasGames Subject: [The Edge] Nietzsche & Throckmorton In a message dated 1/10/98 7:42:47 PM, you wrote: >This phrase -- The Will to Power -- is found in Nietzsche. The way I >understand Nietzsche's use of this phrase, it refers to one's capacity to >exert oneself. The Nazi's used altered versions of Nietzsche's texts to >make Nietzsche seem like he supported a German Nation-State; however, >Nietzsche supported exerting oneself as a way of exerting who you are -- >whoever you are. It is sort of a way of exerting one's individuality. So I >find it strange that the Throckmorton Device would be subtitled "The Will to >Power," since it is a force of conformity. Does some author other than >Nietzsche use this phrase, The Will to Power? Did the Nazis use it a lot, >and that is what this is referring to? Or did Tweet and Laws simply have a >different interpretation of Nietzsche than myself? Any ideas? I've dropped a note to Jonathan, to see if he's interested in sharing any thoughts. If he does, I'll be sure to pass them on to the list. Personally, I have lots of opinions on Nietzsche, since he was one of my favorite thinkers as I was a philosophy major in college. Associating "Throckmorton" with the phrase/concept "will to power" is provocative, and knowing Jonathan I can see it being presented purely as a provocative gesture to make people ask questions just like the ones above. Is will to power something native to an organism, a nation, a species, or even to a "meme"? The Throckmorton device in a sense is the incarnation of will itself, a bundle of intention--not just a world view but innately the agressive expansion that worldview--a sort of super-meme that really does have a life of its own. Not the word made flesh, but the will made machine. Devotees of Nietzsche's heirs could well draw parallels to Martin Heidegger's thoughts in "The Question Concerning Technology," for the Throckmorton device, in carrying human will to a higher level, really does apportion out the human beings of the world as resources for its technological production of the future (the chief instance of which is its own inevitable creation). Hi! It's 3 AM, and I'm rambling, but I hope you get the idea -- it's one of those thought-provoking tidbits that you find in OTE that gets you to ask questions and handle the ideas in the game and think about it in different ways pretty much just for the intellectual pleasure of playing with ideas. Which, IMHO, is a lot of what OTE is about in the final analysis. - -jn [O] You received this message because you are subscribed to the-edge [0] To (un)subscribe, send a message to majordomo@robin.ml.org with body of [O] (un)subscribe the-edge ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:48:13 -0500 (EST) From: Tammy Tayman Subject: Re: [The Edge] Everyone's FAVORITE family, the D'Aubainne's! On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, Perry Lyons wrote: > Ok, We all know Monique is Constance, Cheryl and Jean-Christophe's > mother, but who the heck is their father? The good Doctor Nusbaum? a > time travleing Clyde Throckmorton?. Something FAR more sinister? > Perry Lyons > Who said the HAD a father?!? What with Dolly the sheep and Dr Seed's ambitions, well... After all, Al Amaraj is on -er, beyond- the cutting edge of technology. A little genetic engineering, a little cloning and voila: you have a nice (?) little family! T1 [O] You received this message because you are subscribed to the-edge [0] To (un)subscribe, send a message to majordomo@robin.ml.org with body of [O] (un)subscribe the-edge ------------------------------ End of The Edge Digested V1 #21 ******************************* [O] You received this message because you are subscribed to the-edge-digest [0] To (un)subscribe, send a message to majordomo@robin.ml.org with body of [O] (un)subscribe the-edge-digest To get off digest, subscribe the-edge [O] To post a message, send it to the-edge@robin.ml.org