From: owner-the-edge-digest@ (The Edge Digested) To: the-edge-digest@robin-nvh.bvsd.k12.co.us Subject: The Edge Digested V1 #16 Reply-To: the-edge@robin-nvh.bvsd.k12.co.us Sender: owner-the-edge-digest@ Errors-To: owner-the-edge-digest@ Precedence: bulk The Edge Digested Thursday, December 18 1997 Volume 01 : Number 016 Today's subjects from The Edge: Re: [The Edge] The Ideas, a weird concept [The Edge] don't read unless offered to find magazine.. [The Edge] Tasers Re: [The Edge] The Ideas, a weird concept [The Edge] Edge work 1 [The Edge] Apology and Question Re: [The Edge] Apology and Question Re: [The Edge] Apology and Question Re: [The Edge] Apology and Question Re: [The Edge] advice for a first time GM [The Edge] Jung, an Idea ploy ((drug)) Re: [The Edge] Edge work 1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 22:06:51 -0500 (EST) From: Mark Kinney Subject: Re: [The Edge] The Ideas, a weird concept On Wed, 17 Dec 1997, Perry wrote: > exceptional creators can either posess a human ((Glugs, Kergellians and > Sandmen are for some reason , immune, as are animals and a completely > changed LeThuy)) or form their own body. Those that posess a body Is the lack of mention in the above list indicative that Tulpas are *not* immune...? If this is the case, you can get some real interesting unstable types through which you can introduce this group, as the inherent contradictions that could take place due to the Tulpa's own conceptually-formed nature will rip its mind apart... :-) alberich@iglou.com | Mark Kinney | http://www.iglou.com/nations "I do not want to be devoured by a symbol of monarchy!" -- KGB Chief, "Casino Royale" [O] You received this message because you are subscribed to the-edge [0] To (un)subscribe, send a message to majordomo@robin.ml.org with body of [O] (un)subscribe the-edge ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Dec 97 21:25:06 CST From: David Buckley Ebrey Subject: [The Edge] don't read unless offered to find magazine.. Sorry everyone, My prehistoric email program (mm) ate the name of the person who knew where to find Edgework #1. Could the person who so kindly offered to help please e-mail me privately? Thank you, David [O] You received this message because you are subscribed to the-edge [0] To (un)subscribe, send a message to majordomo@robin.ml.org with body of [O] (un)subscribe the-edge ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 08:31:48 +0100 From: "Jesper Carlsson" Subject: [The Edge] Tasers Det här är ett multipart-meddelande i MIME-format. - ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01BD0AC6.3A28D9C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable When you've fired a taser on a target, how do you reload? How much time do you need for reloading a taser? /Jesper Carlsson - ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01BD0AC6.3A28D9C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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- ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01BD0AC6.3A28D9C0-- [O] You received this message because you are subscribed to the-edge [0] To (un)subscribe, send a message to majordomo@robin.ml.org with body of [O] (un)subscribe the-edge ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 06:37:45 -0500 From: Perry Subject: Re: [The Edge] The Ideas, a weird concept Mark Kinney wrote: > > On Wed, 17 Dec 1997, Perry wrote: > > exceptional creators can either posess a human ((Glugs, Kergellians and > > Sandmen are for some reason , immune, as are animals and a completely > > changed LeThuy)) or form their own body. Those that posess a body > > Is the lack of mention in the above list indicative that Tulpas are *not* > immune...? If this is the case, you can get some real interesting > unstable types through which you can introduce this group, as the inherent > contradictions that could take place due to the Tulpa's own > conceptually-formed nature will rip its mind apart... :-) Oh feck! i knew i forgot something! Tulpas are an interesting case. Ideas, being conceptual entities themselves hold a sort of kinship with Tulpas, considering them to be "brothers". ALthough to the Ideas ((Being the ruthless thought patterns that they are)) this really dosen't mean a whole lot, ESPECIALLY since Tulpas can live on the real world with more ease, a Idea may work with a Tulpa, if only temporarily, and only if it dosen't compromise the Idea's current plans. Otherwise Ideas treat Tulpas like any other realworlder=HOST ((Yes, an Idea CAN force out a tulpa, a tulpa being possesed by an Idea will assume the form of the person who's thoughts make up the Idea, but unlike a human host the tulpa still has a measure of control, leading to a struggle for dominance over the form)) Perry PS so how are they? any suggestions? [O] You received this message because you are subscribed to the-edge [0] To (un)subscribe, send a message to majordomo@robin.ml.org with body of [O] (un)subscribe the-edge ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 09:31:18 PST From: "Aaron Brown" Subject: [The Edge] Edge work 1 I would be very interested in getting a copy if at all possible. I hope there is still one left. Sincerely, Aaron Brown :) Talldude :) Director of Project Callisto On The Edge Conspiracy Leader Member of Hudson Lieck web ring Member of Hudson Lieck fan club Emperor of Chatters for a better tommorow Visit my web-page at http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Alley/2496/talldude.html ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com [O] You received this message because you are subscribed to the-edge [0] To (un)subscribe, send a message to majordomo@robin.ml.org with body of [O] (un)subscribe the-edge ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 09:54:27 PST From: "Aaron Brown" Subject: [The Edge] Apology and Question I havehad trouble running Over The Edge because most of the people I play with play On The Edge. So the mystery of all of the stuff seems to not surprise them. I have wondered if any one else had this same problem. They tend to know what is going on almost before I do. I have considered Changeing the names of the groups and characters from the card game just so they don't know a lot of out of game information. I was wondering if any one had a simpler solution. Oh I also wanted to apologize to everyone for that last email when I hit reply I thought it would just send the message to him. Anyways it won't happen again. Sincerely, Aaron Brown :) Talldude :) Director of Project Callisto On The Edge Conspiracy Leader Member of Hudson Lieck web ring Member of Hudson Lieck fan club Emperor of Chatters for a better tommorow Visit my web-page at http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Alley/2496/talldude.html ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com [O] You received this message because you are subscribed to the-edge [0] To (un)subscribe, send a message to majordomo@robin.ml.org with body of [O] (un)subscribe the-edge ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 11:47:18 -0700 From: Keith Baker Subject: Re: [The Edge] Apology and Question At 09:54 AM 12/18/97 PST, you wrote: >I havehad trouble running Over The Edge because most of the people I >play with play On The Edge. So the mystery of all of the stuff seems to >not surprise them. I have wondered if any one else had this same >problem. They tend to know what is going on almost before I do. I have >considered Changeing the names of the groups and characters from the >card game just so they don't know a lot of out of game information. I >was wondering if any one had a simpler solution. I also had this problem, but with a little work you can turn it to your advantage. One of my favorite tricks was to use characters from the card game, but change their allegiance; so when someone meets Roger Chalk and immediately jumps to the conclusion that he's an OK guy, they'll be surprised to find out that he's actually a sociopathic killer who's never heard of the Earthlings. Ditto for Eliza Smith the Quisling Assassin, etc. In addition, you can change basic assumptions about groups. Switch the Throckmorton Device to being the Karla Sommers Device (why IS she so popular?). The Pharoahs are our only hope to stop the evil machinations of the insane Cut-Ups! People will soon realize not to rely on their out of game knowledge, if they live that long. Of course, another option is not to focus on the major conspiracies. There's certainly a lot of weirdness to go around without Movers, Pharoahs, or Kergillians. And just because you know about the Coral Entity doesn't make the Terminal any less fun to visit... - -Keith [O] You received this message because you are subscribed to the-edge [0] To (un)subscribe, send a message to majordomo@robin.ml.org with body of [O] (un)subscribe the-edge ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 11:16:01 -0800 (PST) From: snooze Subject: Re: [The Edge] Apology and Question On Thu, 18 Dec 1997, Aaron Brown wrote: > I havehad trouble running Over The Edge because most of the people I > play with play On The Edge. So the mystery of all of the stuff seems to > not surprise them. I have wondered if any one else had this same > problem. They tend to know what is going on almost before I do. I have > considered Changeing the names of the groups and characters from the > card game just so they don't know a lot of out of game information. I > was wondering if any one had a simpler solution. This is pretty easy to do actually. (1) just don't use characters from the rules. Especially if they are a very common card in the card game. (2) This is Al Amarja, weird shit happens here. Nothing is ever what it seems. So just keep twisting things about. Most of my games the players went a long time before ever really seeing any real signs of various groups of people. snooze > > Oh I also wanted to apologize to everyone for that last email when I hit > reply I thought it would just send the message to him. Anyways it won't > happen again. > > Sincerely, > Aaron Brown > :) Talldude :) > > Director of Project Callisto > On The Edge Conspiracy Leader > Member of Hudson Lieck web ring > Member of Hudson Lieck fan club > Emperor of Chatters for a better tommorow > > Visit my web-page at > http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Alley/2496/talldude.html > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > [O] You received this message because you are subscribed to the-edge > [0] To (un)subscribe, send a message to majordomo@robin.ml.org with body of > [O] (un)subscribe the-edge > P Gregory Blake (aka snooze@deepseas,The Pause,TooMUSH,etc) P L Peace * Love * Unity * Respect L U email: snooze@crl.com | url: http://www.crl.com/~snooze U R whodp://ding.activerse.com/snooze | ICQ# 1367921 R [O] You received this message because you are subscribed to the-edge [0] To (un)subscribe, send a message to majordomo@robin.ml.org with body of [O] (un)subscribe the-edge ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Dec 97 15:34:56 CST From: David Buckley Ebrey Subject: Re: [The Edge] Apology and Question In the last Pyramid, or maybe the one before that, none other than Jonathon Nephew wrote an article on one way to deal with characters knowing about Al Amarja through OnTE: have them be members of that CPC (Center for Paranormal Control -- that was the organization, wasn't it?). The article detailed the CPC. David [O] You received this message because you are subscribed to the-edge [0] To (un)subscribe, send a message to majordomo@robin.ml.org with body of [O] (un)subscribe the-edge ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 20:20:38 -0500 From: "Rich Collins" Subject: Re: [The Edge] advice for a first time GM - -----Original Message----- From: David Buckley Ebrey To: the-edge@robin-nvh.bvsd.k12.co.us Date: Wednesday, December 17, 1997 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [The Edge] advice for a first time GM >Regarding not using the airport much the first adventure, I respectfully >disagree. (snip) >In my first game all sorts of weird stuff happened; some of >it was truly out of no where, but much of it wasdue to one conspiracy or >another. The airport sets up an initial madness which the characters can >figure out the method behind. (snip) I guess I didn't do a good job of getting to the point, which is that there is a tendency I've seen in many OTE gm's to overwhelm the players on the 1st session, spending a very long period of time focusing on the terminal. I'm not suggesting to bypass the terminal, just to limit the amount of time spent w/ first time _players_. I'm thinking of something along the lines of the terminal scene in Pierced Heart for these guys. Throw em for a loop when they have to use it later, once the players have a better handle for the game. I'm sure that many people think that this is exactly the opposite of how an OTE game should be handled, that the player should be as disoriented as the character. Again, speaking from first hand & observed experience, I'll point out that this is the fastest way to have a player walk away from this game. I've found that the really good role players will be able to go with the flow and play the character in the true spirit of the game if they're not trying to grasp the new gaming environment, the new character, and all the weird shit within 20 minutes of sitting down at the game for the first time. but, that be my humble opine - -rich [O] You received this message because you are subscribed to the-edge [0] To (un)subscribe, send a message to majordomo@robin.ml.org with body of [O] (un)subscribe the-edge ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 21:02:01 -0500 From: Perry Subject: [The Edge] Jung, an Idea ploy ((drug)) Jung A fine white powder, mixed with a beverage and drank, a pinch of the stuff in a drink will temporarily "tap" a user into the "collective" unconcious" The user will recive snippits of info on any number of subjects, and will feel as if nothing is beyond their comprehension, be it quantum theory or the layout of the Terminal((not bloody likely....)) Use: Origionally not very much and only as an experiment by some jaded people, Jung is now becoming widely used amongst University Students needing an extra boost on a test, or a scientist trying to puzzle out a complex theory. The effects of Jung last about one to two hours, but the more intelligent the user is naturally, the longer the effects last. Users get two bonus die on rolls involving comprehension or understanding of a subject, no matter how esoteric or unusual, but any freeroaming Idea can posess a human ((but not Tulpa)) user almost at will, as the super-receptive brain will just see it as more information to be abosorbed. Downiside: An overdose will COMPLETLY open a users mind to the mindscape/collective unconcious, shorting out their brains and leaving them with a nice grey mush in their skull, and more than likley dead. Long term use drives unposessed users insane, as a near constant link forms, and the need to constantly block out unwanted data ((such as the sexual fantasies of a patrol baboon, or exactly how a sandman plans to torture a train set)) renders them either schizophrenic or comatose, and a easy target for Ideas looking for a host. Pushers:The Ideas are the only ones who are capable of of producing Jung, carrying it along with them when they posess a host, usually in the form of a dusting on the hands and face, suggesting that it may be some sort of residue of the collective unconcious. The Ideas, they aren't saying. Cost:rare, about $100 for a 5 hit bag. [O] You received this message because you are subscribed to the-edge [0] To (un)subscribe, send a message to majordomo@robin.ml.org with body of [O] (un)subscribe the-edge ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 19:41:42 -0800 From: Chris Johnson Subject: Re: [The Edge] Edge work 1 Aaron Brown wrote: > > I would be very interested in getting a copy if at all possible. I hope > there is still one left. Unfortunately, they only had 2 copies, and you were request number three...I will let you know if one of the first two backs out... 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