From: owner-the-edge-digest@ (The Edge Digested) To: the-edge-digest@robin-nvh.bvsd.k12.co.us Subject: The Edge Digested V1 #10 Reply-To: the-edge@robin-nvh.bvsd.k12.co.us Sender: owner-the-edge-digest@ Errors-To: owner-the-edge-digest@ Precedence: bulk The Edge Digested Sunday, November 30 1997 Volume 01 : Number 010 Today's subjects from The Edge: Re: [The Edge] Over the Edge LARP Re: [The Edge] Over the Edge LARP Re: [The Edge] Digest Re: [The Edge] Over the Edge LARP Re: [The Edge] Obvious change of subject...Music! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 08:41:58 -0600 From: Bob the Dancing Monkey Subject: Re: [The Edge] Over the Edge LARP At 01:43 PM 11/26/97 +0200, you wrote: >Hello all, I've played OntE for quite a while and love the game >(although finding people to play it *with* can be a pain :-(). >Anyway, the card game introduced me to the role playing game, and >while I've bought the core rules and several supplements I haven't so >far been able to find the time to actually run a game. This is due to >the fact that a lot of my "free" time nowadays goes into LARPs (live >action games), I'm acting as narrator in a long-term Vampire campaign >here in Helsinki and I play actively in a Werewolf game and several >others. The LARP scene here in Finland is *very* active, don't know >about other countries. > >*Anyways*... (you're probably wondering what I'm rambling about :-) a >small while ago a friend of mine (Janne, also an active OntE player) >pitched the idea of running an Over the Edge live game. Another guy >jumped in with "hmmm, nice idea" and now we're actually thinking of >doing it. In other words, we're planning a live-action game set in Al >Amarja, probably indoors since it's winter over here and Al Amarja >isn't exactly known for its snowfall *grin*. The project is still in >the early planning stage, but so far we've thought of playing the >arrival (& customs :-) introductory part of the game as a traditional >table-top game, and then having a live-action scenario later when >everyone is at least vaguely familiar with their characters and their >surroundings. But not *too* familiar, of course... We'll probably keep >the number of major conspiracies involved down to just a few, >otherwise there's a danger of overdoing things. We can always add more >Weird Stuff later. > >Has anyone tried Over the Edge in a live action context? Ideas? There have been several one-shots at Carleton College that have been pretty successful (due in large part to the stunning success that OnTE had on campus and a couple of fantastic facilitators). One was a dinner party of some of the Bigwigs of Al Amarja. Another was a street festival during one of the holidays of her Exaltedness' creation. I believe the Bigwig LARP was debuted at the Con of the North in Minnesota. - -Drew [O] You received this message because you are subscribed to the-edge [0] To (un)subscribe, send a message to majordomo@robin.ml.org with body of [O] (un)subscribe the-edge your@email.add ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 13:54:41 -0500 From: "John M. Baker" Subject: Re: [The Edge] Over the Edge LARP > >Has anyone tried Over the Edge in a live action context? Ideas? >Comments? > One important item is that a Vampire/Werewolf LARP and an OTE LARP would need entirely different mechanics. All the contests, traits, etc. would need to just be thrown out, partly because of the freeform nature of OTE, but mostly because of the need to prevent powermongers (you can't fudge numbers if there are no numbers...) The next major difference is that an OTE LARP would be better suited for pregenerated characters instead of player-created characters, mainly because all of the weird happenings would have to be kept as things that the narrators/GMs could reasonably simulate. In the end, this suggests more of the one-shot deals done at Carleton, and less of the chronicle style of the World of Darkness. If you're looking for ways to do something like that, you might want to check out the Interactive Literature Foundation at http://www.ilfinfo.org for ways to run such a LARP. If anyone can come up with a good OTE chronicle LARP, I'd be most interested. John Baker [O] You received this message because you are subscribed to the-edge [0] To (un)subscribe, send a message to majordomo@robin.ml.org with body of [O] (un)subscribe the-edge your@email.add ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 13:34:25 -0700 From: tstone@robin-nvh.bvsd.k12.co.us Subject: Re: [The Edge] Digest Well, he's currently subscribed. Basically, it's a case of an un-updated page. ### Trevor Stone # New Vista Computer Admin # tstone@robin.ml.org [O] ### http://robin.ml.org/~tstone/ Curses, contests, games, etc. [O] ### I can't do it cap'n! She's runnin' Windows '95! [O] ### Curse of the moment: Thou yeasty shrill-gorged younker! ### Long, long ago, in a galaxy far, far away, David Ebrey said: >I draw your attention to Fran=E7ois Uldry, avi@io.com,'s web page >(http://www.io.com/~avi/). I don't know if you can do anything, but maybe >you can. The following was found on it: > >>Maybe you have noticed... >> >>I am no longer on the over-the-edge mailing list. It is sad, but since it >changed its address, I can't get >>subscribed to it. The DNS od Illuminatti Online doesn't recognize the name >of the new server. So if you >>wan't me to add anything here, you will have to send it to me via email... >Or, Clay if you hear me, please >>subscribe me manually to the list in nodigest mode. >> >>I feel really sorry for the inconvenience... But I NEED this list :-). >> >>Later guys, on the mailing list I hope... > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >Standing in my yard >where they tore down the garage >to make room for the torn down garage > -- A Self Called Nowhere; They Might be Giants > > >[O] You received this message because you are subscribed to the-edge >[0] To (un)subscribe, send a message to majordomo@robin.ml.org with body of >[O] (un)subscribe the-edge your@email.add [O] You received this message because you are subscribed to the-edge [0] To (un)subscribe, send a message to majordomo@robin.ml.org with body of [O] (un)subscribe the-edge your@email.add ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 12:38:46 -0800 (PST) From: "Adam T. Ness" Subject: Re: [The Edge] Over the Edge LARP On Wed, 26 Nov 1997, John M. Baker wrote: > >Has anyone tried Over the Edge in a live action context? Ideas? > >Comments? > > > One important item is that a Vampire/Werewolf LARP and an OTE LARP would > need entirely different mechanics. All the contests, traits, etc. would > need to just be thrown out, partly because of the freeform nature of OTE, > but mostly because of the need to prevent powermongers (you can't fudge > numbers if there are no numbers...) I don't know. The Tabletop OTE rules are almost compatible with the LARP vampire rules. I don't think that the mechanics of the Mind's Eye Theatre LARP (Vampire/Werewolf/Wraith) really fosters powermongering either. Most of the power-mongering comes from players who see their characters as little more than a D&D Hack & Slasher out to kill any NPC's that the GM throws in their way. Admittedly, an OTE LARP based on the MET rules would have far less supernatural abilities than a Vampire or Werewolf game. It would have the players relying more on their characterizations than the supernatural abilities. > The next major difference is that an OTE LARP would be better suited for > pregenerated characters instead of player-created characters, mainly > because all of the weird happenings would have to be kept as things that > the narrators/GMs could reasonably simulate. In the end, this suggests > more of the one-shot deals done at Carleton, and less of the chronicle > style of the World of Darkness. I don't know. I think that this again goes back to the players. In a Tabletop OTE, the players have the ability to twink out their characters just as much as they would in a LARP. The only think that you have to remember is that the characters must be approved by the Narrator/GM. I don't think that One-Shots give the players enough time to flesh out the characters. A longer chronicle gives them a chance to discover new aspects to their characters. > If anyone can come up with a good OTE chronicle LARP, I'd be most > interested. I think that an almost direct translation of the MET rules could be used. I'll try to write something up this weekend and post them. It shouldn't be that bad. progasm: The intense explosion of pleasure when one of your programs compiles the first time without errors. [O] You received this message because you are subscribed to the-edge [0] To (un)subscribe, send a message to majordomo@robin.ml.org with body of [O] (un)subscribe the-edge your@email.add ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 12:01:52 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas Howell Subject: Re: [The Edge] Obvious change of subject...Music! I've found that a little bit of Lorenna McKennit, Dire Straits, and the X-Files soundtrack (by Mark Snow) has added good effect to my campaign. 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