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The Edge Digested      Tuesday, November 18 1997      Volume 01 : Number 005



Today's subjects from The Edge:
	[The Edge] Weather the Cuckoo Like
	Re: [The Edge] Weather the Cuckoo Like
	Re: [The Edge] Weather the Cuckoo Like
	[none]
	[none]
	[The Edge] The Chaos Plague
	Re: [The Edge] Weather the Cuckoo Like
	Re: [The Edge] Weather the Cuckoo Like
	[The Edge] Weather the Cuckoo Like
	Re: [The Edge] Weather the Cuckoo Like

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Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 12:41:20 -0600 (CST)
From: David Ebrey <dbebrey@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU>
Subject: [The Edge] Weather the Cuckoo Like

Hi,
    I finally got a hold of _Weather the Cuckoo Likes_.  I love it.  What I
am wondering is if anyone has tried the Optional Cut-Up Rules (and what they
think of it).  I am also wondering what people would think of just making it
the general system for (non-Cut-Ups) characters as a way of simulating the
weirdness of Al Amarja.  Or is it only good for Cut-Ups?  What do people think,

    David

<Terry Gilliam!>


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Date: Mon, 17 Nov 97 15:37:45 -0400
From: spax <spax@comet.net>
Subject: Re: [The Edge] Weather the Cuckoo Like

Could someone tell me :

what is Weather the Cuckoo Likes?
where can I get it?

          Thanks,

                         Max

>Hi,
>    I finally got a hold of _Weather the Cuckoo Likes_.  I love it.  What I
>am wondering is if anyone has tried the Optional Cut-Up Rules (and what they
>think of it).  I am also wondering what people would think of just making it
>the general system for (non-Cut-Ups) characters as a way of simulating the
>weirdness of Al Amarja.  Or is it only good for Cut-Ups?  What do people 
>think,
>
>    David


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Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 14:56:02 -0600 (CST)
From: David Ebrey <dbebrey@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU>
Subject: Re: [The Edge] Weather the Cuckoo Like

At 03:37 PM 11/17/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Could someone tell me :
>
>what is Weather the Cuckoo Likes?
>where can I get it?
>
>          Thanks,
>
>                         Max

It is the Cut-Ups Project Sourcebook for Over The Edge, and it is glorious.
You can get it where ever fine games are sold (which is evidently not very
many places, considering the trouble I went through).  I would suggest
looking at your local game store, but if they don't have it I suspect you
can find it on the internet (but first support your local game store!) such
as at discountgames.com

    David


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Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 17:20:51 -0500
From: David Freier <freier@mail.med.upenn.edu>
Subject: [none]

ANNOUNCING the Brotherhood of the Resounding Liberty Bells Fall Tournament

It will be held on Saturday November 22 1997 at
the Garden State Games Faire.

The format will be a booster draft style, where each player recieves six 
packs to begin.  Cards are shuffled into a single pile and a number 
placed face up equal to the number of participants.  Players then draft 
singly until all cards are depleted from the stack.  Decks of 30 card 
minimum are constructed along with the addition of six standard resources 
of the players choice.  Boosters will either be Arcana or Arcana / 
Unlimited mix depending upon the overall turnout.  Prizes have been 
generously supplied by Atlas (thanks Jeff!!).  If enough Edge players 
attend there will most likely be an Omni style tournament as well.

For more information on the Faire check out their web site at:

http://members.tripod.com/~GameTrader/gsgf97.html

There are directions for getting to the Faire, which takes place in 
Princeton NJ, just off of exit 8 on the NJ Turnpike.

If you need a pre-reg booklet e-mail me and I can forward a copy to you.  
The On the Edge events are NOT listed in the booklet as they are a recent 
addition to the Faire.  

Other things also on Saturday and maybe Sunday that are not listed but 
that will be going on are Legends of the 5 Rings tournaments and Dune 
tournaments.

If you plan on attending please contact me at either of the following 
addresses:

freier@mail.med.upenn.edu
pharmtoxdr@aol.com

I hope to see some other regional Edge palyers there and plan on having a 
great time.

David Freier
Bodyguard to the Aide of Constance D'Aubainne
Co-Ordinator of the Brotherhood of the Resounding Liberty Bell



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Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 17:21:51 -0500
From: David Freier <freier@mail.med.upenn.edu>
Subject: [none]

ANNOUNCING the Brotherhood of the Resounding Liberty Bells Fall Tournament

It will be held on Saturday November 22 1997 at
the Garden State Games Faire.

The format will be a booster draft style, where each player recieves six 
packs to begin.  Cards are shuffled into a single pile and a number 
placed face up equal to the number of participants.  Players then draft 
singly until all cards are depleted from the stack.  Decks of 30 card 
minimum are constructed along with the addition of six standard resources 
of the players choice.  Boosters will either be Arcana or Arcana / 
Unlimited mix depending upon the overall turnout.  Prizes have been 
generously supplied by Atlas (thanks Jeff!!).  If enough Edge players 
attend there will most likely be an Omni style tournament as well.

For more information on the Faire check out their web site at:

http://members.tripod.com/~GameTrader/gsgf97.html

There are directions for getting to the Faire, which takes place in 
Princeton NJ, at the Novotel Princeton on Route 1.

If you need a pre-reg booklet e-mail me and I can forward a copy to you.  
The On the Edge events are NOT listed in the booklet as they are a recent 
addition to the Faire.  

Other things also on Saturday and maybe Sunday that are not listed but 
that will be going on are Legends of the 5 Rings tournaments and Dune 
tournaments.

If you plan on attending please contact me at either of the following 
addresses:

freier@mail.med.upenn.edu
pharmtoxdr@aol.com

I hope to see some other regional Edge palyers there and plan on having a 
great time.

David Freier
Bodyguard to the Aide of Constance D'Aubainne
Co-Ordinator of the Brotherhood of the Resounding Liberty Bell



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Date: 17 Nov 97 19:10:42 -0800
From: "cine" <cine@PACIFIER.COM>
Subject: [The Edge] The Chaos Plague

where is  Chaos Plague?



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Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 03:58:57 GMT
From: cinnamon@ONE.NET (athol-brose)
Subject: Re: [The Edge] Weather the Cuckoo Like

On Mon, 17 Nov 1997 14:56:02 -0600 (CST), David Ebrey
<dbebrey@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU> wrote:
>It is the Cut-Ups Project Sourcebook for Over The Edge, and it is glorious.
>You can get it where ever fine games are sold (which is evidently not very
>many places, considering the trouble I went through).  I would suggest
>looking at your local game store, but if they don't have it I suspect you
>can find it on the internet (but first support your local game store!) such
>as at discountgames.com

I've said it before and I'll say it again: if your local store will not
order an item from their catalog for you, it's time to find another local
store. I know at least 3 distributers have "Weather" on their books --
because I was the one that looked through the catalogs to see exactly what
it was I wanted when I was ordering Atlas' entire back stock. :-)

I know that the local bookstore has a few OTE rulebooks in their system --
we saw them when we were looking for "Pierced Heart".

And if Cincinnati has at least 4 gaming stores, ANYWHERE can. And I know the
two I've been to will special order stuff for me (usually within a week),
and I'm willing to bet Comic Book World will as well.
- -- 
athol-brose -- cinnamon@one.net
Who am I, that I should be vying for your touch?

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Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 15:03:03 +0100
From: "=?us-ascii?Q?Fran=E7ois_Uldry?=" <avi@iprolink.com>
Subject: Re: [The Edge] Weather the Cuckoo Like

>    I finally got a hold of _Weather the Cuckoo Likes_.  I love it.  What I
>am wondering is if anyone has tried the Optional Cut-Up Rules (and what
they
>think of it).  I am also wondering what people would think of just making
it
>the general system for (non-Cut-Ups) characters as a way of simulating the
>weirdness of Al Amarja.  Or is it only good for Cut-Ups?  What do people
think,

I am using it. It's great. It requires a lot of work to set-up
but then it's really rocking (I got a box with around a
thousand different words ;)

I don't use cut-ups character though ;)

l8r,
Fu.
Editor of a big and nasty homepage at:
http://www.io.com/~avi/
Take a look and...
Will close down on the end of april !



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Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 09:28:34 -0500
From: Simon Taylor <Simon_Taylor@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject: [The Edge] Weather the Cuckoo Like

David,

Yeah, I've used the Cut-Ups system. I have a bin in my games room to whic=
h
every few weeks or so I add a load of cuttings from newspapers, magazines=
,
etc. After a while you get the hang of which are the interesting words to=

use - don't use names!

It's a great system and I have used variations on it for all kinds of
games. Yes, I think it works for any kind of character but it can be fun =
to
make control freaks use a different system just to point out the
differences.

I have also used it in many other non-OTE games. I have a fairly loose an=
d
relaxed non-rules orientated style of refing anyway so I don't overly
concern myself with niceties of penalty dice and the like. In fact, I
rarely use dice at all. I use cut-ups when I am running a game that needs=

to spark fresh ideas. If I want my players on their toes and firing on al=
l
cylinders creatively then cut-ups force the pace. If I am running a more
relaxed game that concentrates on character relationships then I find it
gets in the way.

Oh, and be aware that chopping up papers is an incredibly tedious task! A=
nd
be careful not to leave them in a damp room or where they can be kicked
over!

Bye

Simon Taylor

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Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 12:58:30 -0600 (CST)
From: David Ebrey <dbebrey@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU>
Subject: Re: [The Edge] Weather the Cuckoo Like

At 09:28 AM 11/18/97 -0500, you wrote:
>David,
>
>Yeah, I've used the Cut-Ups system. I have a bin in my games room to which
>every few weeks or so I add a load of cuttings from newspapers, magazines,
>etc. After a while you get the hang of which are the interesting words to
>use - don't use names!

So you re-use the cuttings, but you have a large enough selection that it
doesn't repeat itself often?

>
>It's a great system and I have used variations on it for all kinds of
>games. Yes, I think it works for any kind of character but it can be fun to
>make control freaks use a different system just to point out the
>differences.

Yea, I am not quite sure how to make the transition (between normal system
and cut-up system).  I could say right from the beginning that things work
differently for them.  I also thought about having some sort of strange
run-in at the airport cause the change.  It is interesting to think about
how the system effects character's actions: all of the sudden the characters
are going to be doing things in a quite strange way.

>
>I have also used it in many other non-OTE games. I have a fairly loose and
>relaxed non-rules orientated style of refing anyway so I don't overly
>concern myself with niceties of penalty dice and the like. In fact, I
>rarely use dice at all. I use cut-ups when I am running a game that needs
>to spark fresh ideas. If I want my players on their toes and firing on all
>cylinders creatively then cut-ups force the pace. If I am running a more
>relaxed game that concentrates on character relationships then I find it
>gets in the way.

I think my groups generally go for higher tension games.  Certainly,
character development and inter-personal relations are promoted, but we also
like quite challenging plots.  If one doesn't know what is going to happen
when they do an actions, it adds to the suspense, I think (hence we do use
systems a lot, but for purposes of adding suspense, mainly.  I don't think
we over do it, in my own unbiased opinion).  The Cut-up system certain
preserves, if not heightens that randomness.  In a way it adds more
randomness than a normal system (in that all sorts of unexpected things
could happen), but in a way it is less random (in that how well your
character does is directly related to the Player's skill in putting words
together).  I think I would like the way that this randomness works out, but
I am not sure.

>
>Oh, and be aware that chopping up papers is an incredibly tedious task! And
>be careful not to leave them in a damp room or where they can be kicked
>over!

Yea, some sort of list of words would be great (you could simply print them
out and cut along the dotted line).  One problem is that you would want them
to be fairly random -- you don't want someone's bias's to fall into the list
of words.  The biggest problem is that who would create such a list of
words?  Who in their right mind would go typing all their words into a
computer to put onto their web page?  

Of course, if everyone would just take a hundred random words and submit
them, then everyone would have lots and lots of words to choose from, and
they would more or less all be random (assuming that people choose words
that seemed to work, but on no merit other than that).  Would enough people
submit words though?  Is this just silly?  How many words do you need?  Can
anyone guess?

David


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